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June 10 2024


Good to see you all, let’s just give a little more time for others to join

In our students chat on Saturday we tried something diffferent

I wanted to show the students how to form pictures using the Word in a similar way to what they learned while getting prophetic revelation

So we took a passage of Scripture and looked at it verse by verse

And everyone got a chance to share what they saw in each verse

Then I shared what I could see was the main theme that the Lord was showing in the whole passage

So that the study in the end became almost a prophetic word to everyone

Now the bible has this kind of power

EAch time you read a particular passage you may see something in it that you did not see before

And the Lord can use the same passage of Scripture to minister to many different areas of your life

There is a concept used in the world known as brain storming

This is where you take a topic or subject and each person gets a chance to share what they know or see

Each one may have their own opinion, but as different folks share, they can spark you off to see something you did not see before

Well the same things happens when you take a passage of Scripture and study it together as a group

Usually there is one person - the preacher telling you what they see in this passage

But with this kind of study everyone can get a chance to share what they see

In the end there comes a flow where the Holy Spirit in each one begins to put together all the pieces to form a specific message

Then I as the leader, will try to take those pieces and weave them together into one message, which I believe the Lord is trying to give us

This is one of the best things to do in home cell or home church meeting

Often these meetings are nothing more than a smaller version of what happens in the main church meeting

And preachers and leaders tend to dominate

But the church is a body having different members

and each member has a different function

When they are all put together, the body does something that involves every member

This is how the church should function and it is how church meetings should flow.

There is a time and place for formal preaching and teaching

But when it comes to fellowship and the body ministering to itself, everyone should be involved

This may be new to you, but I am sure by the time we are finished tonight you will get a sense of excitement and enjoy the experience

And this will happen only if everyone participates

So I am going to give you the passage of Scripture that we will be looking at

And we will go through it one verse at a time

And you will all get a chance to share what you see in this passage

I will help guide you with some prompts and suggestions

But I am not going to run the study as I usually do

Everyone ready?

To make sure we are all on the same page, I am going to direct you to the GBM Version of this passage, so that we all read the same thing

I will give you a link to the passage online in the GBM Bible Version

Here it is, just click on it and you will be taken there

https://gbmbible.gbmi.co.za/gbm-bible/?book=40&chapter=14&verse=22&version=GBMVhome

To get the context right, Jesus had just performed a miracle where he fed over 5000 people

we are going to look at the event that took place after this

So we start with the first verse in our passage

Matthew 14:22 And immediately Jesus made his disciples get into a ship, and go ahead of him to the other side, while he sent the crowds away. [GBMV]

Now this is the kind of passage that we usually skim over when reading

But we are going to get some truths out of every verse, including this verse

So I want you to share what impressions come to your mind as you read this verse

The floor is open please feel free

Please respond quickly as our time is limited

good

Just a hint if you get stuck reading a passage, try using the six serving men

Who, what, when, where, why and how

Apply these to the passage to see things in it

good keep them coming

WEll you are already jumping into the next vers

Lets assume this was the only verse you knew

good point

See how many different things are coming out?

Imagine now that you were one of the disciples

What would you think or how would you want to respond?

Here is what I see, “Ok Lord we will head out, but how will you join us, since we have the boat?”

Then consider the crowd. Imagine if you were in a meeting where the preacher did some amazing things? How would you respond at the end of the meeting?

one answer only

the first is what I wanted

If Jesus did not send them away the meeting could have gone on all night

yes this is what I was seeing

So perhaps Jesus sending off his team first was a kind of sign to the crowds

Ok guys, time is up

good

I see something else here

There is a time when the Spirit of God moves

But when it is over, then it is time to move on

Many preachers who flow in supernatural power know this

If they continue to try and minister when the dove has flown they exhaust themselves

Jesus knew when it was time to quit

Can you see now how much we got from an obscure verse, just by meditating on it

Lets see what we can get from the next one

Matthew 14:23 And when he had sent the crowds away, he went up into a mountain by Himself to pray: and when the evening came, he was there all alone. [GBMV]

welcome Moagi

Why did Jesus need to pray - He was in touch with the father at all times

Perhaps he needed to ask the Father how the heck he was going to get across the sea?

good points

remember that Jesus had been ministering for some time from earlier in the day already

And he was probably physically exhausted

good

Yet He not only took time out to pray, He did on a mountain

So He still had to do some climbing first

good

So lets consider the condition or circumstances Jesus was in

and some reasons why perhaps he needed to pray

And maybe we can learn a few things about prayer

Some of you already pointed out that he needed a fresh touch

or empowerment

So lets write down some of the things that applied to Jesus here

I will give the first one

1. He was drained physically

Yes giving thanks is a form of prayer

thank you Pam

now we have two conditions

I would think Jesus was always in fellowship with the Father

But it is easier when there are no distractions

Why did He climb the mountain first?

any suggestions?

yes and no

He had dismissed the crowd

But there could still be some folks hanging around

good Pam

What are the chances anyone else who had been there the whole day would be stupid enough to climb a mountain as it was getting dark?

Jesus did not have the flesh

He was sinless

He simply wanted to be alone without any distractions

These is another reason maybe he wanted to be alone

Consider this passage

Matthew 17:1 And after six days Jesus took Peter, James, and John his brother, and brought them up into a high mountain to be alone,

Here is where you bring in other knowledge of the Word that you have in order to interpet Scripture

What happened on the mount of transfiguration likely happened every time Jesus prayed

Just this time his disciples saw. it

The disciples likely fell asleep while he was praying

They woke up and saw him glowing

Maybe that is why he always made sure he was alone when he prayed

When Jesus prayed it was not for the same reasons we pray

One time we know he prayed all night was when he was choosing his disciples

As someone already said, he did only what He saw the father do

Did Jesus need to get his spirit recharged ?

He had the Father living inside of Him

correct

He was god but also man

That being the case, what lesson can we learn here?

The reason I am pointing this out to you is that the Lord has shown me that we have what Jesus did - the fullness of the Holy Spirit inside of us

I wrote a whole book on this called Tapping Your Inner Resources

When you join with the Lord in prayer it does not affect your spirit

But it affects your body and soul

And when the soul and body are made ready, then the power can flow out freely

And here I believe is the message that the Lord has for us tonight

If we want to do what Jesus did, we need to follow His pattern

And part of that is to make prayer an important activity

But we need a fresh understanding of what prayer is

When Jesus prayed, the power that was in His spirit flowed out through his soul and into his body

and he began to shine with the glory

Moses had the same experience on the mountain in the presence of God

So how should we go about praying and how long should we pray?

Now Jesus was God manifest in the flesh

He was the Word who was at the beginning and was God manifested to mankind

We understand now that God is manifest in three different ways

And just as Jesus spent time with the father, we need to spend time with each of the Godhead

I explain the three relationships we can have with God in my recent book The Essential Mantles of anointing

Which is now available also in printed form

let me ask you a simple question

When you come to pray, who do you pray to?

The father, the son or the holy spirit?

trick question

I explain in my book the different relationships we can have with each one

But most of us do not know how to engage in any of these

We still think Prayer is bringing requests to the Lord

We have stock here at hq

But Jesus only ever brought one request to the Father

and it was denied

exacdtly

When you engage in true prayer you engage all the members of the Godhead

You start by fellowshipping with the Comforter

This is our Jesus replacement, the Holy Spirit

Then you move up into touching the Risen and Ascended Christ

And the highest level is when you enter into the presence of the father

Not everyone experiences all of these

I explain in the book how I experienced them

This is true prayer

And it starts with praise

Then it leads into worship

and finally it ends in the glory

This is the kind of prayer Jesus did and the kind of prayer we should engage in

And if you do, you may find yourself able to do many of the things that Jesus did

This is when you have fully tapped the spiritual resources that are within you

Well I think you have seen what can happen when you do this with the Scriptures

You find yourself getting a message or direction from the Lord

And we did not even get to the main event in this passage

You start by praising the Jesus you know via. the Comforter

And he will bring you into the throne room of the risen chirst

The throne room of the father is only accessible when you have been prepared over a period of time

Who was Jesus giving teaching to before Calvary?

To believers?

exactly

So the Lord’s prayer was never meant to be a pattern for the Church

It has principles we can apply

But it is not the New Testament pattern for the Body of Christ

If you want to see more of how the early church prayed, check out their prayer meeting that ended up with the place being shaken

But Jesus is still out best model

well I think you folks did great tonight with this first attempt at studying like this

So perhaps we can continue this passage next week and see what comes out next?

Did you all enjoy it?

I suggest you become familiar with the GBM Online bible and learn to use it, because it has lots of tools in it to help you study

Go to the main page at https://gbmbible.gbmi.co.za/gbm-bible/

If you login it will keep your last reading reference

there is also a full set of video tutorials to help you learn how to use it

Some time I will show you how to use the original Greek or Hebrew in Strongs to study passages

But most of that is also covered in the videos

Well that is it for tonight. Have a wonderful blessed week and we will see you next week.

Students also have another kind of study on Saturday nights

and there I am beginning to show how the teaching ministry works

great to have you Moagi

Are you just dying to watch a new message to inspire and help you in your spiritual life? Well, look no further, because today I finally got to preach the second message in our full series on Dealing With Bad Mantles. You can go and watch it here now: https://gbm-academy.com/resources/video/dealing-with-bad-mantles/how-satan-gets-access.mp4. Let me know what you think.

awesome I have had several stages like this also where the zlord uncovered more. It csn be progressive

I am starting to work on making some video ads for our products. Here is one I made today for the Elements of the Prophetic Ministry. Tell me what you think of it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4sU24-Bf2M&t=47s

thanks Mark

yes the first one was just an experiment

I am starting with stuff where I have a suitable song first. There is another one at the top of the gbm hq page: https://gbmi.co.za

Thanks for the feedback Mark. I will go in this direction for now until we have an ad for all our books.

There is a longer one here, but similar format - https://apostolicschool.co.za/

We are hoping it will get folks to the bookshop and bring in some sales. I plan to put them everywhere now, maybe even in my blogs

We want to wish all fathers a blessed day today and pray that you will be honored and appreciated by your family. To those who have risen up as spiritual fathers, you also be honored by those in your spiritual family. If you would like to know more about spiritual and apostolic parenting I highly recommend you consider obtaining my book on this subject, which is the second book in the set Seven Functions of Apostolic Leadership. I am giving you access to my new video ad for this book and a link to it in our bookshop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TTUpCaLhMw&t=1sGet the book here: https://www.gbm-bookshop.com/product-detail/?product=226

Why don’t you enroll as a student and you will have access to all the books. There are several covering the Apostolic Calling.

https://apostolicschool.co.za/

All classes are currently only online. We do not have sufficient live students to justify live classes

Once of the benefits of being a student is you get access to all of our published books and eventually audios at https://gbmbooks.gbmi.co.za/

That depends on you, but we usually give you access to a new lecture each week. You need to allow time to live the lessons. You cannot qualify just by study. The projects you submit allow me to assess where you are. Otherwise it is a two year course

You will get Bachelors Degree for first year and Masters for second year

We are not an educational institute we are a ministry training institute. If you are studying with us to gain a piece of paper rather than qualifying for your calling, then you are not suitable as a student with us. We have no interest in registering with the Government or being controlled by the world system.

The mandate of this ministry is to help build the new church - a church that is not run as in the Status Quo church system but follows God’s order for the Church. We encourage our students to register their ministry as a business, as we have done rather than as a ministry

We are registered as Global Business Ministries International Pty Ltd and we are subject to normal business taxation we are not non profit

The moment you ask Government for a tax break, you come under their control

You will learn as an apostle that the new church will be built on a different pattern to the old. Many who come to us for training are not ready to unlearn the worldly principles that have been programmed into them

Thanks John. Pity they don’t have a son’s day huh?

Thanks Ricks

Thanks Eunice

Thanks Francis

I want to give thanks to my Father on this day when we all celebrate our fathers. You made me and birthed into me and raised me up in your image to take my place in your Kingdom.

Thanks so much Pam, receptive listeners go a long way to making this possible also 😀

Thanks Nakia, I have great expectation of seeing you take the soiritual DNA you received and running with it.

check out my new ad for John’s book. I did not realize just how much he put in that book. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKDQnCHa7e0

Last week we started a group study on Matt 14:22-32 and everyone had a chance to participate. In the end we only covered the first two verses and the Lord used them to give us a clear message. Tonight we will continue from verse 24 and see what main message the Lord brings us this time. Try to be there because it is exciting being a part of what the lord is doing. You will learn how to use the Scriptures to hear His voice.

No problem see you next week

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