WhatsApp Chats - Chapter 7 of 30
Random
July 15 2024
Welcome Eunice
Looks like we have a good group tonight
Since it is summer holidays in the States a lot of folks are busy or on vacation
I will be stopping out Saturday chats just for students for now, but we will continue with this Monday fellowship chat
Who is feeling blessed today?
Who would like to feel more blessed? 😀
Most of the things we concentrate on in life are the things that bring us joy and good feelings
But there are different ways folks go about getting these
Perhaps to feel good you like to go shopping 😀
Or maybe going out for a meal
Or enjoying your marriage partner
yes I know you singles are losing out
But there are many ways of experiencing good things
However, most of the ways we use do not include the Lord
Some get their joy out of a bottle
But that never lasts or fully satisfies
I do not condemn folks we need to do this
I hear folks say, “My husband has a drinking problem”
This is not true at all
He has another kind of problem but it is not the drink
The drink is the way he solves the problem
All of the ways of this world to have fun and get joy are temporary
And often very costly
But as believers we have something better
The Psalmist David knew the best place to go
and he told us in one of his Psalms
Before we get to that let me just ask a simple question
Have you ever been to a church where they are experiencing revival
One the biggest in recent times was Toronto and then Brownesville
People came in from all around the world to these places
Recently a revival seemed to break out in a university
and suddenly people came from everywhere
The place was tiny and could not house them all
Now what is it that attracts the crowds to revival?
yes but what makes people want to go there?
Actually it is not the signs and wonders
I watched a guy once who really moved in powerful healings and he was one of the first that had a manifestation of gold in his meetings
One meeting he took with him a guy who was a bit prophetic
and he asked the people which they would prefer - some more signs and wonders or some prophetic ministry
And without exception everyone said “Prophetic ministry”
Lila yes it is the excitement
and the feelings that go with it
I knew Rodney Howard Browne before he became famous - used to work for his brother Gilroy
And when people started falling and laughing it drew the crowds
I was told that folks would line up to be prayed for and fall
then they would get up and go back into the line again for some more
They all got drunk in the Spirit and loved it
Life is full of stress and sadness
We can all use a bit of joy and excitement
and some good feelings
Some have made serving the Lord a chore that costs us
They go to the world for the fun stuff
or they deny. themselves any fun because it is not spiritual
Well it seems David knew how to get all of this in the presence of the Lord
He found his own way to revival
Here is what he said
Psalms 16:11 You will make known to me the way to revival: in your presence, there is a joy that fully satisfies; at your right hand there are pleasures that last forever. [GBMV]
There is an easier way to revival that catching a flight to Toronto or some other place
It can be found in His presence
Just feeling His presence is the most wonderful feeling in the world
In fact, when you stop feeling his presence your spiritual life become tough
And you wonder where he went, and why He is not there any more
But in his presence is true revival
Not like the revivals of the past which all ran for a while and died down
David says there is a way, a road that leads to revival
and the destination is the presence of the Lord
So how do we find that road?
In other words, how do we practice the presence of the Lord?
We know that He is always present
He promised He would never leave us or forsake us
But most of the time we cannot feel His presenc
So we go looking for it
Jesus is always present
When the disciples were struggling with the storm in the boat, Jesus was there
He was lying asleep in the boat
Yet they cried out in fear
That boat could never sink with Jesus in it
But they did not make use of His presence until they became desperate
Then they cried out to Him
and with a couple of words He calmed the storm
Is this not they way we all are?
When things are gping great we forget that He is there
But then when things go wrong we cry out to Him - Lord where are you?
Lord, did you forget about me?
Now suddenly we want to rush into His presence
David was known as a man after God’s heart
and he said he had found the way to revival
So perhaps we could learn something from him
And he did not even have what we have in Christ
Yes Lila, YAES
The Scriptures says He dwells in the praises of His people
So if you want to find the way to revival or the first key to experiencing His presence there it is
What happens when you spend time in His presence?
What happened to Moses when he spent time in the presence of the Lord?
What happened to Jesus when he spent time in the presence of the Father?
They both began to glow
yes exacly
You know you get those glow in the dark toys
If you leave them lying in bright light for a while they pick up the power of the light\\
Then when you switch off the light they glow
What is it that touches us and makes us experience these things in the Lord?
It is the power of His presence
But where is His presence?
Moses climbed the mountain to experience it
yes it is His spirit
where is the Lord right now?
Our Father, who is in heaven….
Jesus is right there are the right hand
But we live in an earthly realm
Yes he is in me and all around me
just like electricity
but the power has to be connected first
Ephesians 2:6 And has raised [us] up together, and made [us] sit together in heavenly [places] in Christ Jesus: [GBMV]
In days gone by if you wanted to talk with the King you had to. visit His throne room
Jesus is seated at the right hand of the majesty on high
So how do we get up there to come into His presence?
He sent someone to take His place and to bring His presence to us
Jesus said this to His disciples
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said to him, If a man loves me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come to him, and make our abode with him. [GBMV]
He promised the Comforter
John 14:16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Comforter [like Me], so that he may continue to be with you forever;
So the comforter, the Holy Spirit brings the presence of Jesus and the Father also
Now if I could just find out where Jesus’ throne room is…
I could visit Him there any time
In fact we are told we can come boldly any time
Hebrews 4:16 Let us, therefore, approach the throne of grace with confidence so that we can take hold of mercy and discover favor to help us when we need it. [GBMV]
The throne of Jesus is inside of you
and you can access it through the Holy Spirit who lives in you
But how can you do this unless you are able to see Jesus
I come into His throne room each time I need to minister
and I ask Him to activate the mantles He has given me
But this was not something I knew from the beginning
It was only after I had come to know Jesus intimately in the spirit that I could see Him in the spirit
I had to develop a friendship with Him in the spirit
to where He became as real to me as any other person
Now when I talk with Him, I do not aim my prayers up into the sky in hope
I see Him sitting right there next to me
and we hold a. conversation
This is what prayer should be
But until I saw Him for the first time this was only in my imagination
you see the Comforter was given to be a Jesus replacement
Just as Jesus was with His disciples helping them all the time
So the comforter now has come to carry out that role
When you are feeling down and need a word of encouragemewnt, where do you get it?
Do you need someone who is in touch with Him to give you a word from Him?
How can you come to a place where He speaks directly to you?
We must come to a place of spiritual maturity
And the sign of this is when you are walking in agape love
Here is what Paul said in the love chapter
1 Corinthians 13:8 [Agape] love never loses its efficiency: but if [there are] prophecies, they will come to an end; if [there are] tongues, they will cease; if [there is] knowledge, it will vanish away.
This means that when you are perfected in love, you can now hear from Him directly
So when I have a need I go and. talk with him
When I need to minister I talk with Him
A
I ask Him, Lord what do you want to do with this person?
Lord tell me about them
And He tells me directly
correct
Well how do we develop that relationship?
How do we come to a place where you can see Him in the spirit and talk with Him?
I have shared before how it happened for me, but for those who have not heard it I will repeat it
I came to the Lord one day in desperation and cried out to Him for my needs
Because I was desperate I pushed on through
I spoke in tongues for a while and kept praying
Then suddenly, for the first time I say a vision of Him in my mind
Now before this happened I only heard his voice speaking to me
and He told me that I still had bitterness in my heart towards folks that had hurt me along the way
He. told me to go make that right first
And after I bared my heart and cried out in repentance something happened
Suddenly He stood there in front of me
He did not say anything but just looked at me
and it felt like His eyes were going right through me
I did not know what to say, so I said, “Lord I am concerned about those people who once served you and now turned their back on you
And then He spoke very clearly.
He asked me, “What makes you think that I love them less than I love you?\"
I felt shattered - His love was unconditional
I learned that day that there is nothing you can do to change His love for you
And with a fresh knowledge of that love, I sought to know Him better
and I spent time praying every day
And each time he came again to talk with me
I fell more deeply in love with Jesus than I had ever been in love with a woman
I got butterflies in my stomach just thinking about Him
I wanted to spend more time with Him
and when He was there, I did not have a care in the world
I remember during one of those times of intimacy in His presence He spoke to me
and He told me that He wanted me to go out There to take His presence
I looked and saw darkness and evil out there
and I wanted to stay in the safe place of His presence
But He promised I would not need to go alone
He would always be with me
In time as my ministry grew I learned that we all have bad experiences in life that leave scars
He showed me that I could go back to those bad memories and take Him with me
So that they were no longer so fearful and painful
I found that when I revisited a bad memory with Jesus there is somehow changed the memory
I was no longer alone in that memory
and the sting of the memory vanished
the scar was. removed
I learned that I could do this with people who were still suffering from past hurts and bad experiences
I would walk them back through those memories with Jesus in it
and I would ask them to see Jesus there
When you father was being nasty to you and you felt all alone and rejected
You could turn to Jesus, who would put His arms around you
and you would no longer feel rejected and alone
I learned that we can be transformed by His presence
and began to teach on this
Sometimes the memory is so painful that a person does not want to go back there
They have shut off a while part of their life in their memory
Then He would show me the stage of their life and I would just ask Him to shine His light in the darkness
Later He gave me a specific gift of inner healing where I could set people free without going back
There are so many benefits to being in His presence
And if you want to experience the greatest benefits you must take time to get to know Him in the Spirit
For me it began by praying in tongues for long periods of time each day
Until one day I experienced a kind of breakthrough
We discovered way of speeding this up, and Daphne did a teaching called Bulldozing Through Spiritual Problems
To do this you take a Scripture promise and speak it over and over again
Then you pray a bit in tongues
then find another Scripture and repeat
you can also praise and sing in the spirit
All of these things bring a greater sense of His presence
Until you feel charged up
But the starring point should always be getting to know Him in the Spirit
Ask Him to reveal Himself to you
Pray in the spirit and spend time praising him
until He manifests Himself to you
Then develop that relationship on an ongoing basis
This is only the first stage of experiencing the fullness of God
you have only come to know the Comforter
Now you move higher to develop a relationship with the Risen Jesus and then the Father
Jesus as the comforter is uncondemning and tender
But when you encounter Him as the Risen Ascended Christ you come into the presence of His power
and this can feel quite scary at first
When John the apostle first experienced this he fell at His feet as dead
Saul of Tarsus fell to the groun
This is now a different kind of presence
This is some of what you experience when you cannot stand before the power
Now you can develop this personally alone with Him
Or you could start by finding someone who already has this relatoinshiop
and they are able to communicate that power to you
Ths is what happens in revival churches and men and women of God who are anointed
The presence of the Father is something that is not avaialble to everyeone
It is usually reserved for those called to the higher Apostolic Offices
You can sense His presence because it feels different
It comes with a deep awe and reverential fear
yet these are all his presence
The presence of the Comforter brings a manifestation of love
The presence of the Risen Christ bring a manifestation of power and joy
the presence of the Father brings a sense of awe and everything gets very quiet
I explain my own experiences with all of these in my book The Essential Mantles
So if you desire to experience more of God and be used by Him I recommend you get that book
For now, getting to know Him as the Comforter should be your first priority
If you have a prophetic orientation or desire to flow in prophetic ministry, then developing a relationship with the Comforter is essential
We include it as part of our training
But you can start moving there by making the effort to pray in tongues often and for long periods of time
Add music and include praise and worship and this greatly enhances it
And then there are stages you move through to experience a greater level of His glory
Where you move from praise to worship to. glory
I actually preached a message on this some time back entitled From Praise to Glory
I found tons of messages I preached on YouTube that were never published in books and have been downloading them and transcribing them
And I am putting them into a new book in GBM Books
you can go watch this one and read the unedited transcsript here
https://gbmbooks.gbmi.co.za/read-chapters/?Title=YouTube%20Videos&Chapter=20
The final conclusion of what I have been trying to tell you tonight
Is that you can practice His presence and experience the joy and pleasures that He offers
And you can come to the place where you hear Him speaking to you whenever you need Him
But it will not fall on you one day when He decides to do it
The choice lies in your hands
and there is an effort required and a price to pay
But the final result is well worth all the time and effort
I would trade for this world what He has given me and continues to give me through His presence
I hope you enjoyed the study tonight and are motivated to get moving into His presence
If you need extra help, I have given lots of teaching and can point you to move materials
I trust you will have a wonderful week and experience some of His presence this week
See you all again next monday
Last night we looked at Practicing His Presence and I mentioned that I had preached a message a while back entitled from Praise to Glory which shows how to move into a greater experience of God’s presence
I have now fully edited this message and put it up in a new section in GBM Books containing many past teachings that were never published officially. They are all under a book called YouTube Videos and I will be publishing them in a similar way to my regular blogs - i.e. with video, audio and transcripts.
These are all full teachings and not short publication like my blogs, but they will be up permanently on Gbm Books under Free Books so that anyone can benefit from them.
There are 36 messages up so far, but not all the transcripts have been edited yet - they were just made using a transcript program and are readable but not perfect
But you can now watch, listen to and read the teaching From Praise to Glory here: https://gbmbooks.gbmi.co.za/read-chapters/?Title=YouTube%20Videos&Chapter=20
Remember our chat tonight at 7pm Our time. Tomight I want to look at moving into the power of God
RandomTop of Page